Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:12:38
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Subject: COZY: Orders to AeroElectric Connection

I've seen some traffic on this subject and thought a
bit of explanation was in order. . . 

Over the holidays we spent too much time away from
the office and things stacked up. When we got back into
the saddle a couple of weeks ago, it seems we ran out of
about everything all at once! I've been busy cajoling
suppliers into getting our inventories restocked.

Dee has hauled a lot of boxes to the post office the
past few days so the decks have been cleared for all the
orders we could ship complete. The longest lead time
on any critical shortages I have now are next Monday
so we think we'll be caught up 100% by the middle of
nex week.


Thank you all for your patience!

       Bob . . .
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:50:19 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Source for sandpaper?

Hi  Joseph

I get my disks from local napa auto parts dealer.

frank johanson

Joseph H. Hart IV wrote:

>     I use my 5" random orbit sander for those rare occasions when I need
> to sand a layup that was not peel-plied or has been somehow contaminated
> since the peel-ply was removed.  Usually a lot of sanding with the 60
> grit that I can find at Home Depot does the trick on these small areas.
> Unfortunately, I screwed up, removed the peel ply from the inside bottom
> layup so that I could flox it to the fuselage sides/bulkheads, but did
> not tape the joints.  Now I have some serious sanding to do on the
> fuselage bottom before I can tape the joints and 60 grit is not going to
> cut it nor do I want to spend a huge amount of time handsanding only to
> get a lesser quality job than I would with the RO sander.  Does anyone
> know where I can find 5" 36 grit hook & loop sandpaper discs?  I would
> prefer discs punched with 8 holes but zero or 5 hole would work.
>
>     Thanks in advance.
> --
> Jody Hart, New Orleans, LA
> Cozy Mark IV plans no. 648, N359JH (reserved)
> Chapter 6, see latest progress at:
> <http://home.gs.verio.net/~jodyhart/home.html>



Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:49:15 -0800
From: "LCDR James D. Newman" <infaero@flash.net>
Subject: COZY: Re:  Source for sandpaper?

Hi Jody and All,

> I use my 5" random orbit sander . . .

    Me too.

> Does anyone know where I can find 5" 36 grit hook & loop sandpaper discs?  I would prefer discs
> punched with 8 holes but zero or 5 hole would work.

    Call Klingspor at (800) 228-0000, International Customers call 001-828-327-7263, for their 24
hours a day order desk.  They have a free catalog of all their products.
    I just quickly flipped through their latest catalog.  Didn't see 5" diameter 36 grit hook and
loop discs with holes (just saw 60 grit as the coarsest - should work for ya), but did see 36 grit
discs.
    Good luck.


Infinity's Forever,

    JD

From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:10:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: COZY: Source for sandpaper?

Jodyhart asked <5" random orbit sandpaper>
I use the PSA (pressure sensative adhesive) ones, they are readily available with replacement 
baching pads at auto body shop supply houses.

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:28:31 -0600
From: "Joseph H. Hart IV" <jodyhart@communique.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Source for sandpaper?



Bill Kastenholz wrote:

>     I don't think they make hook and loop discs less than 60 grit.

Bill:

    Although it was hard to find and doesn't have the dust collection holes that
my Dewalt sander has, I was able to find 40 grit 5" hook and loop discs through
my local Sherwin-Williams dealer.  They had to order them but I should have them
by the end of the week.  They were $19.50 for a box of 25.  Also, Klingspor
would make them for $.48/piece; however, the wait time was too long.  I sure
wish that I had chosen a sander that accepts PSA rather than hook and loop (PSA
is cheaper)!

    Thanks to everyone for their replies.

Jody Hart

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:00:02
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Subject: COZY: Special buy on D-Sub crimp tool . . .

We've just received a limited qty of "star crimp" tools
for machined pins to fit D-Sub connectors and many others.
Take a peek at:

http://www.aeroelectric.com/consign.html

The D-Sub connector is found on many of the small, modern
avionics products. It's also common to most of our "black
boxes". . . .

Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:12:47 -0500
From: Jeff Russell <JRaero@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: Great News (Press Release)

PRESS RELEASE
For immediate release.
(02-02-99)


On January 14th, 1999, a agreement was reached between Co-Z
Development Corp. and AeroCad, Inc. which resulted in settlement
of law suits between the parties.

Nat Puffer, President, of Co-Z, and Jeff Russell, President of
AeroCad released a joint statement that:

It became very obvious that we both were interested in furthering
the development of canard -style airplanes, that we would both be
better off by joining forces again, rather than in spending time and
money in court, and that settlement would be in the best interest of
the builders.

Therefore, Co-Z has granted a non-exclusive license to AeroCad, Inc.
to use the Co-Z Proprietary Rights worldwide and AeroCad will
become an Approved Supplier of Cozy Airplane components.
Mr. Puffer will personally inspect all Cozy parts produced by
AeroCad for form, fit and function, and the approved parts will be
labeled Made to Co-Z Development Corp. Cozy Specifications.

Also under the license agreement, AeroCad will continue to
offer the AeroCanard airplane kits, a slightly larger and different
4-place canard kit. Any builder that uses AeroCanard parts which
are different in form, fit, and function that is specified in the
Cozy plans will be asked to not register their plane under the
Cozy label......

For more information contact:
Mr. Nathan Puffer
Co-Z Development Corp.
2046 No. 63rd Place
Mesa, AZ 85215
602-981-6401

For more information contact:
Mr. Jeff Russell
AeroCad, Inc.
2954 Curtis King Blvd.
Port St. Lucie, FL 34946
561-460-8020


Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:14:06 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Cozy: 3" UNI Tape

Hi Dick

Not only is the quality control bad I think in some cases it is on purpose. I just
got ten gallons of epoxy and 15% of each gallon was not filled , that's really
stretching the product and cheating us , I tend to think the wrong size tape may
be done thinking we will make up the difference and not complain. Well I intend to
raise bloody hell with them and If we don't all complain they will keep doing
more!!!
  I am really very angry with the way things are going on getting material.
Another order I put in they quoted 19 dollars a gallon plus shipping & handling
then did not ship or call back. After a week and a half I called and was told it
was not in stock ( it was before) and was now 32 dollars per gallon for the
hardener.
  These people need to realize that If they cheat on the quality and a accident
occurs they may be held liable if it can be shown that they did not take steps to
correct the errors.

Best Wishes Dick
Frank Johanson
Cozy7971@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/2/99 12:47:46 PM Central Standard Time,
> tmkpida@pacbell.net writes:
>
> << The 3" UNI tape that is used in spar cap layups used to be in fact a full
> 3"
>  wide. I recently went to ACS and almost got a roll now 2-1/2" wide.  >>
>
> As another point on changing products, I just received 30 yards of BID from
> Wicks.  It came without the selvage edge.  I suspect this will make it a whole
> lot harder to do get the strands straight on a layup.  To make things worse,
> the idiot that packaged it wrapped the roll with masking tape before rolling
> it up in paper.  The tape stuck like glue and ruined about 1.5 feet of the
> roll.  At $4.80 a yard thats pretty expensive packaging.
>
> On the positive side, after about six to eight months of turning the garage
> into a heated workshop I'm back in production.  I'm finishing a few pieces in
> the basement and will be moving the plane outside for final assembly in a few
> weeks.
>
> Dick Finn



Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:21:14 -0800
From: "LCDR James D. Newman" <infaero@flash.net>
Subject: COZY: Re:  3" UNI Tape

Hi Frank and All,

> Frank Johanson wrote:

> Not only is the quality control bad I think in some cases it is on purpose. I just got ten gallons
> of epoxy and 15% of each gallon was not filled , that's really stretching the product and cheating
> us, . . .

    Yes, I asked the same question long ago (since day one - Nov. 1982).  It has always been sold
short for a "gallon" of resin and short for a "half gallon" of hardener.  I was told that it is sold
by the "weight" not the volume.  So I asked them why do you advertise it as a gallon kit?  The
people at the counter had no answer (their usual annoyed blank stare when you catch them in the
wrong).  It still bugs me too.

> . . . I tend to think the wrong size tape may be done thinking we will make up the difference and
> not complain.

    I just got another 180 yards in Dec. and I immediately called to find out why it was only
between 2.5" and 2.75" wide.  They (ACS) passed me over to one of their tech types.  He said it was
the same stuff, that the manufacturer pulls it tighter which makes it a little narrower.
    The roll still had 30 bundles, but I don't know if each bundle had the same number of strands.

> Well I intend to raise bloody hell with them and If we don't all complain they will keep doing
> more!!!

    Good luck.  Let me us know what you find out.


Infinity's Forever,

    JD



From: SWrightFLY@aol.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:21:22 EST
Subject: Re: COZY: Cozy: 3" UNI Tape

In a message dated 2/7/99 8:12:59 PM Central Standard Time, ics@ime.net
writes:

<<  I am really very angry with the way things are going on getting material.
 Another order I put in they quoted 19 dollars a gallon plus  >>

Many years ago I was "SPRUCED" as you have been but I ordered from Aircraft
Spruce for the last time.  I now will buy only from WIx Aircraft who treats
the customer great and gets the order right most of the time.

Steve Wright

Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:35:19 -0800
From: spruce@deltanet.com (Aircraft Spruce & Specialty)
Subject: COZY: reply

Dear Dick,
We received a copy of the email you posted to the cozy builders regarding
our 3" unidirectional tape. We went to pull the product off the shelf and
you are right, the tape did in fact measure out to 2-1/2" inches in width.
In actuality the tape is exactly the same as it has always been. The specs
for the tape are not determined by the width, but rather by the number of
strands of roving in the tape, which has not changed.  The tensile strength
and flex are based on a 27-30 strand tape.  Ours has always been 30 strand.
Because the weave can vary in tightness the actual width of the tape can
vary.  Many people have actually told us that they find it a lot easier to
work with with the weave tighter, cutting down the width.

Anytime you have a concern or comment on a product we sell we would
appreciate it if you would direct the comment to us along with your
building buddies.  We pay a lot attention to customer feedback such as
yours and Frank Johanson's. We address any product quality issues
immediately and the feedback helps us to stay on top of the 30,000 products
we sell and the service we provide for our customers.

If we can be of any future service to you please let us know.

Sincerely,
Jerry Aguilar
Aircraft Spruce West

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Frank,
We received a copy of your email posted to cozy builders and promptly
checked on the product you ordered. I personally checked the Alphapoxy
resin and hardener in stock and although the containers are not filled to
the top they do in fact contain a "gallons" worth of resin and hardener.
The containers in reality hold a little more than a gallon.  I checked the
resins of many other manufacturers using the same containers and all are
filled to the same approx. height in the container.

As for the cost of the resins and hardeners, in this case Alphapoxy, you
are absolutely right. The cost was $19.85 a few weeks ago, as your invoice
notes.  The reason for the tremendous increase in price for the item is
human error. We were actually selling gallons at the half gallon price. You
like many others took advantage of the low price while it lasted. Sorry
guys we now have corrected the error. In the 98-99 catalog both resin and
hardener are listed at $37.25 a gallon. This was our price as of June 1998.
The current price for these products is $29.75 for the resin and $32.85 for
the hardener, a pretty substantial reduction in both cases.  Aircraft
Spruce is now the manufacturer of these products. In the past few months we
were out of the product because the transition caused us to backorder the
product for a very short time.  The transition also brought lower prices
which we are now passing on to the consumer.

Frank, we appreciate you comments and concerns, but would also appreciate
it if you contact us first with your concerns before posting comments
insinuating or speculating that we are cheating our customers.  Aircraft
Spruce has been in business supplying quality parts for nearly 40 years, an
impossible task if cheating were a part of our business plan. As always, if
there is a mistake or error in ordering product from us we do everything we
can to rectify the problem and insure customer satisfaction.

Should you have any additional concerns please feel free to contact me.

Jerry Aguilar
Aircraft Spruce West

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
AIRCRAFT SPRUCE & SPECIALTY CO.
225 Airport Circle
Corona, CA 90270 U.S.A.
Tele:  909-372-9555
Fax:  909-372-0555
Order Desk:  800-824-1930
Customer Service:  800-861-3192
Email:  info@aircraft-spruce.com
WWW:  http://www.aircraft-spruce.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:16:32 -0500
From: "Marc J. Zeitlin" <marcz@ultranet.com>
Subject: COZY: Vendor Addition

People;

I'd like to announce that Jerry Aguilar of Aircraft Spruce is now a member
of the COZY mailing list (ACS is certainly a vendor of COZY parts, if
anyone is).  I'm making this announcement because ACS is substantially
larger and more commercial than the rest of the vendors on the list, and
Jerry and I have had a long discussion regarding the non-commercial nature
of the list.

Jerry's request to be added to the list was precipitated by the recent
discussion of epoxy shorting on some orders.  While certainly germane to
the issue of COZY building, I think that any dispute with a vendor should
be brought to the attention of the vendor directly and a solution worked
out (if possible). Only then should the whole mailing list be brought into
it, and as the charter states;

    Suppliers may not disparage other supplier's product nor any
    competitor in postings to the whole list, nor may other members do it
    by proxy for the supplier.  This does not in any way restrict
    discussion on parts, services, or safety issues, as long as no
    disparaging comments (obvious or subtle) are made.  Anyone may state
    any facts on which they have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE or official
    notification regarding purchased items from any supplier, on or off
    the list.

This latest epoxy discussion skirted this line closely, if not crossing it
- please be careful in the future.  Not just because ACS is listening -
this clause has been in the charter for 4 years, and it's there for a reason.

Anyway, as with our other vendors, I hope that Jerry will be able to help
us out on occasion.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin           marcz@ultranet.com
                          http://www.ultranet.com/~marcz/

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:16:10 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Vendor Addition

Hello Jerry  and welcome to the list.
  To let every one know , I received the epoxy that jerry (from A.S.) promised.
Thank you very much for your help in this matter. Jerry ,  I want you  to know
that your joining this group and to offer your time in our efforts , really means
more to me than everything else. This is a long term effort and giving of your
time for everyone's benefit. I think it is great to have more venders on line,
Mark I hope this might start a trend.

 Mark I here and was aware of the issues you mentioned. Not being a vendor I felt
I was within the charter. Critique take with the good will it was offered with, I
asked for the input , that is how we  improve. Censer Thanks  (FTJ)
 Jerry I will gladly apologize for not giving you the chance to handle this first
before posting it to the group. I must say that hind site is 20/20 and I was very
angry. Again thank you for your efforts and lets go on with our building.
To the Canard Aviators ,  Thanks also for your thoughts and inputs.
Thanks  To All
Frank Johanson

Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:

> People;
>
> I'd like to announce that Jerry Aguilar of Aircraft Spruce is now a member
> of the COZY mailing list (ACS is certainly a vendor of COZY parts, if
> anyone is).  I'm making this announcement because ACS is substantially
> larger and more commercial than the rest of the vendors on the list, and
> Jerry and I have had a long discussion regarding the non-commercial nature
> of the list.
>
> Jerry's request to be added to the list was precipitated by the recent
> discussion of epoxy shorting on some orders.  While certainly germane to
> the issue of COZY building, I think that any dispute with a vendor should
> be brought to the attention of the vendor directly and a solution worked
> out (if possible). Only then should the whole mailing list be brought into
> it, and as the charter states;
>
>     Suppliers may not disparage other supplier's product nor any
>     competitor in postings to the whole list, nor may other members do it
>     by proxy for the supplier.  This does not in any way restrict
>     discussion on parts, services, or safety issues, as long as no
>     disparaging comments (obvious or subtle) are made.  Anyone may state
>     any facts on which they have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE or official
>     notification regarding purchased items from any supplier, on or off
>     the list.
>
> This latest epoxy discussion skirted this line closely, if not crossing it
> - please be careful in the future.  Not just because ACS is listening -
> this clause has been in the charter for 4 years, and it's there for a reason.
>
> Anyway, as with our other vendors, I hope that Jerry will be able to help
> us out on occasion.
>
> --
> Marc J. Zeitlin           marcz@ultranet.com
>                           http://www.ultranet.com/~marcz/



Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:25:18 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: COZY: Re: Epoxy



Jerry Aguilar wrote:

>      Dear Frank,
>      I took home a gallon container last night and meticuluosly poured in a
>       gallon using exact cup measurements and you are right. It filled the
>      container to the top of the handle. I have processed the order to get
>      extra epoxy and resin to you. We do not carry a 1/2 gallon container o
>      f resin so I sent a 1 gallon kit no charge to you. We have now refille
>      d all of the containers on the shelf so they measure a gallon. Whats f
>      unny is that we just took this product over a month or so ago but the
>      previous manufacturer had sold it exactly as we were, because they tau
>      ght our staff their procedures, with the quantity about 4 fingers from
>       the top. They were also really surprised when I mentioned to them tha
>      t the container hold basically an exact gallon.
>      Sincerely
>      Jerry Aguilar



Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:27:51 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: COZY: Re: Epoxy



Jerry Aguilar wrote:

>      Dear Frank,
>      Well we finally have made a firm decision on this epoxy situation, whi
>      ch does not effect our resolution of your problem. The price of the ep
>      oxy was actually priced out for a 7/8 gallon, which is what you got ap
>      proximately. If we were to increase the epoxy to fill the container it
>       would effect the price, we would have to increase it. So really Frank
>       we are sending what customers are paying for (the description of the
>      product is what is wrong). We are now going to state in the catalog th
>      at the resin is sold in 7/8 of a gallon. the original manufacturer pro
>      bably did it this way because when you sell it in a kit, as opposed to
>       individual gallons the mixture ratio is approx 7/8 gal resin to 3/8 g
>      allon hardener. So as not to keep some containers with 7/8 and others
>      totally full they simplified it and made all 7/8 of a gal.
>      Just thought you'd like to know.
>      Sincerely,
>      Jerry Aguilar



Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:04:10 -0800
From: Frank Johanson <ics@ime.net>
Subject: COZY: Epoxy & A.S.

Dear Fellow Builders

After giving Aircraft Spruce the time they requested to look in to the
matter I am bringing every one up to date  on the results. I personally
would rather have a full gallon and pay accordingly, since the mixing
ratio is 2 to 1 even gallons are better,  then there is no question
about the amount in volume or dollars. I was also curious when the issue
of price was going to come into this evaluation. As far as I am
concerned it is not relevant to the issue of the amount of epoxy when
the container and catalog both say one gallon. If A.S. must adjust the
price so be it. It is still black and white issue at that point and easy
to be sure that all is fair and no fast ones are being pulled.  And  A.
S. will not have to change all the labels and the catalog.
  KEEP IT SIMPLE  A. S.   Is the best policy.
If you agree with my suggestions here please let Jerry  know at A. S. If
you think I am off base that's ok to let me Know.

Best to All
Frank Johanson

From: Todd Carrico <todd.carrico@aris.com>
Subject: COZY: Dihedral Canard/Glass Cockpit
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 06:45:11 -0800

A few weeks back, I remember reading about a Dihedral Canard.  Where can I
get more information on this?

Also, I have heard a rumor about a Glass Cockpit mailing list.  Does any one
know how I can get on it?

Todd Carrico

From: ponciroli@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:01:50 -0500
Subject: Re: COZY: Dihedral Canard/Glass Cockpit

Todd asked:

A few weeks back, I remember reading about a Dihedral Canard.  Where can I
get more information on this?



Todd - Vance Atkinson has a polyhedral canard on his Cozy, He's the guy to
ask. From the outside it looks as though the canard has dihedral. However
it gives you what you want, additional stability. I think that he has
drawings etc. Vance is on this builder's forum.

					Don Ponciroli@att.net


From: N11TE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:40:25 EST
Subject: Re: COZY: Dihedral Canard/Glass Cockpit

In a message dated 2/22/99 9:58:51 AM CST,
ponciroli@postoffice.worldnet.att.net writes:

> Todd asked:
>  
>  A few weeks back, I remember reading about a Dihedral Canard.  Where can I
>  get more information on this?
>  
>  
>  
>  Todd - Vance Atkinson has a polyhedral canard on his Cozy, He's the guy to
>  ask. From the outside it looks as though the canard has dihedral. However
>  it gives you what you want, additional stability. I think that he has
>  drawings etc. Vance is on this builder's forum.
>  

Or, Jeff Russell at AeroCad has a kit for this "bent canard."  You may want to
contact him for more information.

I'd have used this kit but my canard was already built before this kit came
out.  I understand that measurement of the improvement benefits of this
modification are somewhat mixed.  Accurate results on stability and speed have
been hard to measure, but it sure looks good!

Tom Ellis
AeroCanard 540 s/n 11

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:41:34 -0500
From: Gary Dwinal <gdwinal@exploremaine.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: Dihedral Canard/Glass Cockpit

Hi Todd,
   Jeff Russell at AeroCad sells a pre-molded dehidral canard.  He builds nice
stuff.  I purchased the canard he flew on his AeroCanard prototype before he
built his dehidral canard.  You can contact Jeff at    jeff@aerocad.com
Gary Dwinal

Todd Carrico wrote:

> A few weeks back, I remember reading about a Dihedral Canard.  Where can I
> get more information on this?
>
> Also, I have heard a rumor about a Glass Cockpit mailing list.  Does any one
> know how I can get on it?
>
> Todd Carrico



Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:11:22 -0800
From: Eric Westland <ewestland@altavista.net>
Subject: COZY: MSC

Possibly you are all aware of this supplier, but after 7 years of
building they were new to me and I wish I had discovered them years
ago.  They are MSC Industrial Supply and have a web page at
http://www.mscdirect.com/.  They are like Grainger's on steroids and
will sell to anyone where Grainger's can be "wholesale only".  Their
prices are also excellent.

Their entire catalog is on an excellent CD and their big catalog has
many items that I got elsewhere after lots of searching.  They will send
a CD to anyone, but you may need to request the catalog be sent to your
work address.  It's nearly 5,000 pages.  I don't think their catalog can
be accessed on the web yet.  They do have a $25 minimum order.

Eric Westland

From: "John Slade" <jslade@adelphia.net>
Subject: COZY: COZY nosewheels & bearings
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:31:44 -0500

Re Nat's newsletter comment about the nose wheel NWA-1230 being in short
supply. A/C Spuce are out of stock. Wicks have 11 in stock. Make that 10.

Also the FM10 nylon bearing mentioned in the same article to replace the
phenolic otherwise needed to make CS 108 and CS 117. are available singly
from WIcks @ .67c each. Nat says you need 6.

John Slade #757


Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:26:38 -0500
From: Jeff Russell <JRaero@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: Re: [c-a] dihedral



"V. Atkinson" wrote:

> I would certainly not build a new canard just to have a bent one, the
> difference is not that noticeable.  But when the great one suggests,"
> if your gonna build a new canard anyway, put in the bend..........".
> and that's the rest of the story.

We make this type part for airplanes and this part is under evaluation
from Co-Z Development.  Until we get approval from them on this
part, any use from builders on a Cozy type airplane will be notified
that their registration of their airplane should not bear the Cozy name.

Here is a piece of our settlement agreement that spells this out for
the builders of Cozy type aircraft.

5. Approval of Cozy Components
Co-Z agrees to inspect and approve or disapprove Licensed Components
to be sold as Cozy Components in conjunction with the visit by Nat Puffer
to the 1999 air show called Sun n Fun. Thereafter, for each Licensed
Component which AeroCad intends to sell as a Cozy Component, the
first component manufactured by AeroCad, prior to sale to any third party,

shall be delivered to Co-Z, at the expense of AeroCad, for approval by
Co-Z. Co-Z agrees to grant or deny its approval of such component
as meeting the Cozy specification then in effect with respect to form,
fit, and function. If Co-Z approves the proposed Component submitted,
AeroCad shall have the right to make and sell such components, provided
they are identical in form, fit and function to the submitted sample,
during
the term of this agreement until AeroCad substantially modifies the Cozy
Component, or Co-Z informs AeroCad in writing that the specification
for the Cozy Component has been substantially modified, without any need
for further submission of the approved Cozy Component to Co-Z. In the
event that Co-Z does not approve of the component delivered by AeroCad
for approval, and provides written disapproval to AeroCad within fifteen
(15) days from the date of delivery, together with a specific list of the
reasons for such disapproval, AeroCad shall not manufacture and sell
such component as a Cozy Component. In the event that Co-Z does not
respond to AeroCad within fifteen (15) days from the date of receipt
of the component submitted for approval by AeroCad, the component
shall be deemed approved as a Cozy Component.


6. Non-Cozy Components Notice
In addition to the requirements for labeling as set forth in
Paragraph 4 above, AeroCad agrees that for all Licensed
Components which are designated Non-Cozy Components,
AeroCad shall: (a) provide a statement on each quotation
and each invoice for the sale of such Non-Cozy Component
stating:

Customer agrees that any airplane built by customer incorporating
a Non-Cozy Component will not be registered with the Federal
Aviation Authority (FAA) under a name or identification which
includes the word Cozy or Mark IV. Customer further agrees
that if customer procures insurance for the airplane incorporating
a Non-Cozy Component, the airplane shall not be identified with
any name or identification that includes the word Cozy or Mark IV.
Customer understands that a Non-Cozy Component has not been
approved by Co-Z Development Corporation.
and; (b) not make any reference to Cozy and/or Co-Z Development
Corp. in connection with the advertising, sale, or offer to sell such
Non-Cozy Component.

--
Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc.


Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:42:35 -0600
From: Rob and Carla Kittler <rkck@mindspring.com>
Subject: COZY: Aero sport power

A Correction regarding the phone number listed in the latest cozy news
letter. (page 65-4)
The correct number for Aero Sport Power is 250 376-2955.  The listed number
is a fax number. Don't know if it is their fax number though.

Spoke with them today regarding pricing and a host of other issues. Very
helpful and pleasent to speak with.

Regards
Robert

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:17:24 -0400
From: Neil Clayton <harvey4@earthlink.net>
Subject: COZY: Attaboy for Matco

Without going into the details, Matco went far out of their way twice to
accommodate my needs recently, and I wanted to use this forum to say "thank
you" to them.

Neil C

Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:10:49 +0200
From: Jean-Jacques CLAUS <jjclaus@club-internet.fr>
Subject: COZY: baggage pods

Hi all,

Does anyone knows where I can buy a baggage pod set of plans ?

Thanks,

Jean-Jacques CLAUS
France




Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:04:26 +0200
From: Jean-Jacques CLAUS <jjclaus@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: COZY: Front Hinged canopy



Todd Carrico a crit:

> Where can we get a hold of Uli Woelter?
>
> tc
>

You can "e-mail"  to ULI WOLTER at mailto:flyclassic@aol.com


Jean-Jacques CLAUS
France



From: alwick@juno.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:46:46 -0700
Subject: COZY: superfil prices

For those interested in trying Polyfiber product "Superfil", I just
discovered that if you order direct from Polyfiber, you pay and extra $30
per 3 gallon kit!
Pretty ironic that ordering direct from mfg. results in 25% price
increase. It's currently $121 from spruce, $151 from Polyfiber.

-al wick
Canopy Latch System guy.
Artificial intelligence in Cockpit
Cozy sn 389 driven by stock Subaru 2.5 ltr.93% complete.

___________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

From: anneandwill@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: COZY: superfil prices
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:15:15 +0000

To Polyfiber's credit, when I ordered some of their 
waterbased paint (which is NOT currently carried by the 
normal distributors) and some Superfil, they told me that 
I could get the Superfil cheaper from Aircraft Spruce or 
Wicks and even told me the price that AS was selling it 
for!

I have found the at Polyfiber excellent people to work 
with - very helpful, and honest.

Will 
> Not ironic at all.  I ran into the same thing with PTM&W when I tried to buy
> Aeropoxy directly from them.  They don't want to deal with the onsies and
> twosies type customer.  It is not profitable for them.  They need to sell in
> large quantities to realize a profit.
> 
> Russ Fisher
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alwick@juno.com <alwick@juno.com>
> 
> 
> >For those interested in trying Polyfiber product "Superfil", I just
> >discovered that if you order direct from Polyfiber, you pay and extra $30
> >per 3 gallon kit!
> >Pretty ironic that ordering direct from mfg. results in 25% price
> >increase. It's currently $121 from spruce, $151 from Polyfiber.
> 
> 

Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:06:47 -0400
From: Jeff Russell <JRaero@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: Vender notice: Cozy Approved Parts

Cozy Approved Parts:
We now have pre-molded parts approved by Co-Z Development to be sold as
Cozy Parts.  These parts are now listed on our updated website.  Please
check
this out at:   http://www.Aerocad.com
Thanks Nat and the group for your support.

--
Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc.

Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:40:10 -0700
From: Wayne Lanza <wlanza@bb.iu.net>
Subject: COZY: Composite Design Web Site

Hello to the Group,
 Please visit Composite Design's new web page.
Many of you have been bugging me to start the
page, well here it is...  It's some what in a 
state of flux, so bear with us as while we get 
all of the products scanned in & organized.
 I'll be adding the Cozy & EZ type speed brake
kits soon as well as a few new items.

Happy Building & Fly Safe

Wayne Lanza


visit us at: http://www.integrityonline15.com/wwerner

Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:38:41 +0200
From: lecoqben <"lecoqben"@club-internet.fr>
Subject: COZY: Reception of my exhaust stack.

    Hello to everybody from France.

    I have been out of the net for quite a time for many reasons, one of
them was that my computer was crashed by the so called CIH virus. I got
it through my kid that loaded a CD rom game which had that virus ( Watch
out , guys!!!!)
    One of the main objective of that message is to applause for the
service I got from Custom aircrafts parts when I ordered my exhaust from
them.
    I ordered it last December and told them to ship it via US mail to
France because the shipping cost was lower. Guess what happened: it got
lost. After a few exchanges with Clinton Anderson ( The owner of Custom
aircrafts parts), he offered to resend a new set with only the shipping
cost. I just received it yesterday ( via UPS of course).
    Thanks a lot for your service, Clinton. Of course , we are
researching for the previous package and if it is found , I will make
sure Clinton gets payed for it.

    Happy building.
    Benoit LECOQ.

From: "John Slade" <rjslade@bellsouth.net>
Subject: COZY: alternative hardware supplier
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:11:55 -0400

Builders,
Does anyone know of an alternative supplier for ANY of the Cozy MkIV
hardware? Right now I'm looking at the parts for Chapters 11,12 & 13.
(torque tube offsets etc.) The stuff from the current, as I understand it,
sole supplier, seems to be both expensive and inaccurate. So far I've
received two ill fitting parts out of three and I've read of many other
complaints. I don't have the machinery to make the stuff myself, but there's
an opportunity for someone who has.
John Slade
Cozy MkIV #757 (building the canard)
Progress: http://kgarden.com/cozy



From: vaatk@flash.net
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:42:40 -0500
Subject: COZY: Re: [c-a] Fuel level sensor

 Call  Harvey Ackerman at Precision Instrument Control Inc  tel  817 498
2475 .
He has a very good system and reasonably priced.     Vance Atkinson

"Putney, Gordon A." wrote:

> [The Canard Aviators's Mailing list]
>
> I am looking for a generic capacitive sensor suitable for most display
> types.   Any recommendations?   Fuel may be gas or diesel.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:20:07 -0400
From: Paul Krasa <p.w.krasa@larc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: COZY: alternative hardware supplier

A local cozy iv builder found a great alternative supplier.  Himself.  He
took a adult ed. machine shop course and made his parts as class projects.
I have looked at his work.  It is excellent, and he did not have to invest
in alot of expensive machine equipment.

Paul
Long EZ 214LP
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From: "Paul Stowitts" <PStowitts@worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Cozy Builders Group'" <cozy_builders@canard.com>
Subject: RE: COZY: Smooth Prime
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:02:59 -0700
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Poly-Fiber's order number is (800) 362-3490.  Regular phone and fax are
(909) 684-4280 and (909) 684-0518, respectively.

Paul Stowitts
Cozy Mark IV #200

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-cozy_builders@betaweb.com
[mailto:owner-cozy_builders@betaweb.com]On Behalf Of Epplin John A
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 7:25 AM
To: cozy_builders@canard.com
Subject: COZY: Smooth Prime


	Where can I get Smooth Prime from?  Wicks will not have it till next
month, they say it is sold direct from the manufacturer.  Someone surely has
the phone or URL or address etc for it!

Thanks

John Epplin  Mk4  #467

je25272@deere.com

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:20:13 -0400
From: Neil Clayton <harvey4@earthlink.net>
Subject: COZY: Brock attaboy

I recieved my MK-AA nose axle fork assembly from Brock this week.

What a nice looking job. Rather than putting it on the plane I'm thinking
of putting it in a glass display case on my desk. Parts like this remind me
why I became an engineer. It really is a thing of beauty.

Good job Brock!

Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:11:48 +0200
From: lecoqben <"lecoqben"@club-internet.fr>
Subject: COZY: Re: [c-a] Exhausts



Richard Goodwin a crit :

> [The Canard Aviators's Mailing list]
>
> What's the difference between Custom Aircraft's Exhaust and Hall Hunt,
> or are they the same thing?
>
> Richard Goodwin
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      I initially bought Hall Hunt exhausts for my Cozy. I found out that
they were just garbage compared to the ones Customs aircraft parts sells.
Plus Customs aircrafts parts are super-super providers because the one I
got from them were lost through mail between USA and France and they
provided new ones free.
    Discard Hall hunt production.
    Yours sincerely
    BenoitLECOQ.

Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:08:08 -0700
From: Eric Westland <ewestland@altavista.net>
Subject: COZY: Great Instrument Vendor


I am so pleased with the flight instruments I received from Howard
Francis that I wanted to pass along my experience.

Nat Puffer runs a line or two in his newsletter mentioning Howard and if
you need any of the six basic flight instruments, you should check him
out.  Two-plus years ago I bought a used attitude indicator, DG,
altimeter, VSI, electric turn and bank, airspeed indicator (he paints in
the arcs to your specs) and a 2-1/4" vacuum gauge.  I saved about $1,000
from what I would have paid for new.  All of his stuff is used, but
before Howard sends them out, he rebuilds whatever needs doing - he is
retired from this profession.  Myself and two other local builders have
bought from him, the instruments look like new.  However, you will be
able to judge for yourself since after telling Howard what you want, he
sends them to you when they're ready.  Then you either accept them and
send him a check or return them.

Last month it became apparent that my attitude indicator was sticking. 
Although I was careful to occasionally spin it up during the two years I
had it, I probably had not done it often enough, so I called Howard to
see if he had a replacement he could send me.  He did not at the time,
but told me to send mine to him for repair.  Well, I just didn't get to
it very fast and last week _he called me_ to see what it's status was. 
So I sent it off and had it back right away as good as new.  He even
paid for the return shipping. 

You can contact him at:

Howard Francis, 5613 S. Crows Nest Rd., Tempe, AZ 85283 (602) 820-0405.

Eric Westland
Mukilteo, WA

Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:35:12 -0700
From: "LCDR James D. Newman" <infaero@flash.net>
Subject: COZY: Re:  Electronic Ignition

> Roger Roy wrote:

> Can anyone in the Cozy Gang help me with Jeff Rose's E-mail address, thank.

     Jeff Rose <electroair@juno.com>

Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:07:43 +0000
From: Wayne Lanza <wlanza@iu.net>
Subject: COZY: Re:New Products!!

Hello to the Group,
 Regarding the last couple of email discussing the constant speed prop
solution... I've just returned from an interesting business trip to Milan,

Italy. I am soon to be the US/Canadian distributor for a device called
"FlySpeed" (FS). It is basically a prop governor for use with any of the
popular electrically adjustable propellors, MT, Ivo, Hoffman, etc.
 In addition to some VERY sophisticated governor functions it also has
display for RPM and MAP. The unit fits in a 3.125" hole, weighs 0.5lb
and is expected to retail in the $800 range.
 I flew with one of these in Rotax 912 powered light aircraft last
weekend.
The unit was flawless!
 I have three systems here for evaluation, 2 are going in Velocity's and 1

is going in a Europa demonstrator along with a new 3 bladed prop that
I'll also be importing.
 Sorry, but due to the design of the blades that they are using (Warp
Drive),
I can't offer the prop to higher power i.e. >160HP (yet)...
 Oh yeah, almost forgot, I'm in negotiations with DigiFly to represent the

new color moving map/engine monitor system too. I brought one of these
home with me, it's REALLY NICE!!!

 I'll update on the FS when we start getting hours on the Velocity
installations.
If you are interested in the FS let me know, but consider visiting us in
April
at Sun-N-Fun. I'll be there with the people that I'm be representing &
we'll have
alot to show. Contact me just before SNF for location info. Until then
keep
checking the Composite Design web page, we'll get the new stuff up ASAP!

Safe Flying,
Wayne Lanza

check our web page at: www.integrityonline15.com/wwerner

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jeff Russell wrote:

I have seen 2 AeroCanards fly with MT props and many Velocities.  It
normally takes 1000 feet or more to rotate depending on loading.
I have taken over 3000 feet to rotate on a hot, heavy day with a CG of
97.
The CS props seems to cut in half the rotate distance.  Landing with
a CS prop will take power above idle or you will fall out of the sky.
The Glide slope seems more normal with a FP prop that seems flat.


From: "Russ Fisher" <rfisher1@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: Prebuild, what can I expect if ordering the kits ??
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:24:09 -0400

Wydo,

Both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks (my preference) have Web sites :
www.wicks.com
www.aircraft-spruce.com

I would recommend you get an estimate directly from them.  It would be
difficult for most on this list to figure that out since the typical builder
only orders a few chapter's worth of materials at a time.  Obviously, by
combining material into fewer containers you can save weight and space.

See ya,

Russ Fisher

-----Original Message-----
From: wydo van de waerdt <wydo.vandewaerdt@fae.storkgroup.com>


>Can someone tell me if I order all kits at Aircraft Spruce at once;
>What is the Weight
>What is the Volume
>Wydo van de Waerdt (NL)
>Cozy MkIV #????:PRE-BUILD


From: "John Slade" <rjslade@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Prebuild, Looking for !!!
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:28:53 -0400

Hi,
I don't know about the size of the shipment, but I have a few thoughts for
you which might help:

There are a few suppliers to be coordinated - metal hardware from Brock,
Canopy & windows for Airplane Plastics, Fiberglass and building supplies
from Wicks or AC Spruce (I prefer Wicks). Another consideration might be
prefab fiberglass parts - tutleback, seats, armrests, nose cone - maybe even
canard and wing cores, fuselage tub etc. All these parts can be coordinated
into the same shipment to save costs, even coordinated with other shipments
to the same part of the world. I understand that Jeff Russel at AeroCad has
done this for some builders around the world who are using some of his
molded parts. You can reach Jeff through http://aerocad.com

Hope this helps,
Regards,
John Slade


From: "astrong" <astrong@mscomm.com>
Subject: COZY: Quick build parts
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:34:56 -0700

"Publicly no-one wants to
>admit to changes they're making. 'Fess up people. What are you all up to?"

Marc, Here is my two bits worth, check out  Innovations at the bottom of my
homepage and more are on the way.

Regards,

Alex

Homepage http://www.canard.com/trim

"Live your life so you can look anybody in the eye,
and tell him to go to blazes!!"
                                  Dr. James Walter Strong
                                         (1874-1950)



































Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:24:19 -0400
From: "Marc J. Zeitlin" <marcz@ultranet.com>
Subject: COZY: Quick build parts

The inestimable John Slade wrote:

>I find it very useful to hear about other people's "deviations" [from plans]
>but lately I only get this information privately. Publically no-one wants to
>admit to changes they're making. 'Fess up people. What are you all up to?

Changes (in order of "importance", at least by my estimation):

1) Matco triple puck brakes

   Read the archives for info on why I decided to make this change


2) AeroCad wing kits

I decided to purchase this because Chris Scida (on Long Island) said that
he was able to complete his wings in 2 weeks!! using the kit.  Well, four
months later I finished, but to be fair, I was working in a basement with
no room to move.  They came out very nicely, and I was happy with them.
Would I do it again?  Probably not, just due to the cost factor - doing it
yourself is a lot cheaper.  If you've got the room, though, I think they
would make things go a lot faster, especially if you're scared of
hot-wiring (which I'm not).


3) AeroCad pre-fab strakes

I decided to get these because the strakes are extremely visible, and I
figured that I'd never get mine as smooth as those coming out of a mold.
However, there's still a lot of work, they're expensive, and the
construction is slightly different than in the plans (although not to any
substantial degree).  They do come out very nice, but once again, from a
cost standpoint, I'm not sure it's worth it.  All depends on your
time/money tradoff.


4) AeroCad Turtledeck

Got this for the same reason as (3).  This is relatively cheap, so I'd
probably do it again (although I have to say that I did have to heat-form
the thing after receiving it - it was too narrow).


5) Nose crank ratchet

I added Curtis Smith (nee Bill Theeringer)'s nose crank ratchet (the old
version without the cyanoacrylate problem).  Wanted the extra safety.


6) Raised the canopy/TB 1"

Just to get a bit more headroom.


7) Landing lights in nose cone (homegrown)

See my web pages for info - I didn't want any mechanisms to run the lights
- I wanted them fixed and I liked the look of the nosecone ones that I had
seen in OSH.


8) retractable step (homegrown)

I tried to make it as much like Todd Morgan's Cozy III step as I could, but
I moved it back to the rear of the thigh rest rather than at the I.P.  It's
actuated with a push-pull cable.


>Come on. Let's hear about other people's experiences with pre-cut cores,
>molded tubs, spars & strakes etc. etc. Did they fit? How much time did they
>save? Was it worth it?

How's that?

--
Marc J. Zeitlin           mailto:marcz@ultranet.com
                          http://www.ultranet.com/~marcz/

From: "D. Rothrock" <rdrock@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: Quick-build parts
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:38:18 -0400

Hi Group,
My project began as a "Plans-Built", Cozy MK-IV. Due to a severe epoxy
reaction, I was forced to either "give it up" or take another approach. I
have incorporated many Aerocad "quick-build" parts:  wings, strakes,  spar
and
others. By using so called "quick-build" I found that I could limit my
exposure to epoxy. I also take daily  prescription medication and use butyl
gloves covered with throwaway gloves, respirator, long
sleeve shirts.   Now, almost 3 years later, I'm filling & finishing and have
ordered my
engine. Ninety % of wiring is complete, a local upholstery shop will do the
seats. Presently located at a private strip west of Port St. Lucie, Florida,
not too far from the Palm Beach area John. If anyone is visiting in this
area, stop by and take a look.
Don




















From: "wydo van de waerdt" <wydo.vandewaerdt@fae.storkgroup.com>
Subject: COZY: Prebuild, Looking for !!!
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:53:24 +0200

Dear builders,

Questions in the category: I am looking for !!!

I am looking for a Bill Of Material (MkIV) in digital format, excel will do
fine.

I am looking for the E-mail address of Ken Brock mfg.

Please send me a list of suppliers you got your material from;
Specially the one you think have got value for money.
E-mail address/ website

Can someone give me an indication of what price to expect when buying an
O-320 or O-360, with  800 to 1500 hours on it.
What are places to look for these type of engines?

Regards,
Wydo van de Waerdt (NL)
#????:Pre-build


From: "John Slade" <rjslade@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Prebuild, Looking for !!!
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:45 -0400

>I am looking for a Bill Of Material (MkIV) in digital format, excel will do
>fine.

Wicks will fax you a proforma invoice listing the entire supplies. Theire
1998 catalog has an excellent list broken down by chapter.  Perhaps someone
will scan it and send it to you.

>I am looking for the E-mail address of Ken Brock mfg.
http://www.kenbrockmfg.com/

>Please send me a list of suppliers you got your material from;
>Specially the one you think have got value for money.
>E-mail address/ website


I recommend WIcks.
http://www.wicks.com/aircraft/

>Can someone give me an indication of what price to expect when buying an
>O-320 or O-360, with  800 to 1500 hours on it.
>What are places to look for these type of engines?

You'll need an 0-360. Perhaps you'll find one at around 6 - $10,000, but its
not easy.
You could also "consider" an alternative engine like a Mazda 13B rotary. Not
approved, but becoming more widely used.

Regards,
John Slade


From: "Thomas Kennedy" <tmkdbk@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: Ken Brock's E mail
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:29:42 -0700

Going into ken brock's office is like going back in a time warp to the FBI
(in color). Efram Zimbalizt jr is there with the same LTD's out front. I
think the most advanced office equipment is an electric typrwriter. I kid
you not I have not seen a computer in the building.

The machine shop itself if very neat and well maintained. The people are
great and eager to help, but they have their style and E mail isn't it from
what I can see.

Tom Kennedy
Doing wings

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:48:24 -0500
Subject: COZY: Ken Brock website
From: "Filipovic" <filipo@webzone.net>

Wydo,

Although Ken Brock Mfg. e-mail is not currently available, you might find
the Brock website interesting.

http://www.kenbrockmfg.com/

And for the Cozy Mk IV parts:
http://www.kenbrockmfg.com/cozy4.htm


Omar Filipovic
Mk IV #816

----------
>From: "wydo van de waerdt" <wydo.vandewaerdt@fae.storkgroup.com>

>I am looking for the E-mail address of Ken Brock mfg.
>

Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 05:26:34 -0400
From: Jeff Russell <JRaero@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: molded vortilons

We have made a set of molds for the vortilons that Velocity
aircraft uses for their kits.  Scott Swing gave us the go ahead
to market these parts to the EZ builders.  These parts are shown
on our website pictures.  We have installed them on a Berkut and
a Cozy with no problems.  These parts have a flange molded on one
side to match the wing leading edge.  Check them out.
E-mail me for their price.

-- 
Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. 
http://www.Aerocad.com

Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 19:29:54 -0400
From: "L. Wayne Hicks" <lwhicks@erols.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: Ken Brock's E mail

Thomas Kennedy wrote:
> 
The people are
> great and eager to help, but they have their style and E mail isn't it from
> what I can see.
> 
---------> But they do have a web page.  You can look at their catalog
to  get a good idea on parts and stuff.  Pay special attention because
there's a separate page devoted strictly to MkIV parts.   Something else
to consider, after you buy the first few items, they'll take you on
faith... i.e., they'll send you the part then you send the check.  How
many other vendors do that!

Wayne Hicks
Cozy IV #678
Chapter 18
http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/2027

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:05:03 -0400
From: Bill Theeringer <Composite_Aircraft_Accessories@compuserve.com>
Subject: COZY: Ken Brock's E mail


Wayne Hicks wrote;

<to consider, after you buy the first few items, they'll take you on
faith... i.e., they'll send you the part then you send the check.  How
many other vendors do that!>

Back in the 80's There was a very nice lady named Phyllis working for KB. 
She would visit her sister in Montecieto on the weekends and would deliver
to my house in Santa Barbara for free any orders that I had placed that
week.  As she left she would say ..."Now don't forget to send Ken a check
for that!"  With service like that I made sure he got the check on Monday.


Bill T.
N29EZ

From: "John Slade" <rjslade@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Ken Brock's E mail
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:38:42 -0400

Wayne,
>after you buy the first few items, they'll take you on faith...
If only the parts would actually fit when they arrive this would be
excellent service.  In my experience they don't fit 50% of the time. Brock
didn't even answer my [polite] letter of complaint. Oh, by the way, the
catalog is very confusing, they don't stick to the part numbers in the
plans. Its very easy to get the wrong thing.
Just another perspective.
Regards,
John





Date: 	Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:59:44 -0600
From: "Capital Steel Inc." <capitalsteel@compusmart.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: COZY: Volume

P.S. This included all except the molded parts like canopy.  No mistakes
in my order from Wicks.

"Capital Steel Inc." wrote:

> Wydo
> Volume is about 5.5 x 5 x 8 feet, except for the container for the
> longerons which took about 2.5 x 7 inches x 9 feet.
> Joe

Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:48:03 +0200
From: Jannie Versfeld <qmain@intekom.co.za>
Subject: Re: COZY: K.B.M. Parts for the Cozy MKIV

cliffordfamily wrote:
> 
> There was a posting today from a builder that stated that all the Ken Brock
> parts he has ordered were not built right and did not fit.  <snip>


Go ahead and order from Brock ... everything fits well .... build
according to plans and you will have no problem.  Brock is a reputable
supplier and if anything is wrong he will surely replace at his expense.

Jannie Versfeld
Cozy #673
South Africa

From: "Jim White" <jimwhi@televar.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: K.B.M. Parts for the Cozy MKIV
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:27:52 -0700

I have received excellent service and quality from Ken Brock.  His parts are
expensive, but only compared to making them yourself.  Given the amount of
work it takes to make most of the parts he produces, as expensive as they
may seem, I don't think he is getting rich selling airplane parts.
My 2 cents worth,
Jim White
N44QT


From: "campbell" <campbell@ece.umn.edu>
Subject: RE: COZY: K.B.M. Parts for the Cozy MKIV
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:28:37 

This is not an unusual response.  If you go back through the archives you 
will find a number of complaints about the price and quality of KB parts.  
Some people have simply made their own if they has access to the right 
tools.  Most of us just take what we can get and work with the parts to get 
them to fit.  
Steve Campbell
Cozy # 376 - On wheels, wings done - time to wire.

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:43:07 -0400,
cliffordfamily@provide.net wrote...
>There was a posting today from a builder that stated that all the Ken 
Brock
>parts he has ordered were not built right and did not fit.  We are going 
to
>place our first order with K.B.M. for our Cozy's and now wonder if other
>builders have had the same problem with their K.B.M. parts, or if the
>problem may have been that the plane was not built accurately enough for 
>the
>parts to fit.
>If the K.B.M. parts are not right, is there another source?  If any 
>builders
>that have used K.B.M. parts could let us know one way or another, we would
>be grateful.  Thanks for your help.
>
>Dave C. #656
>Mike & Thane # 591
>
>
>
>




From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:01:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: COZY: B & C Web Page

On 10/11/99 12:18:46 you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know if B & C Specialty Products has a web page and what the
>address is?  Thanks.
>
>Paul Stowitts
>Cozy Mark IV #200
>
>

Don't think they have a Web page, but caution with E-mail, apparently no one checks anyone other than their own E-Mail, which 
means your message may not get read promptly.

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:04:02 -0400
From: kent ashton <kjashton@vnet.net>
Subject: COZY: Northern Fiberglass Sales

web site for Northern Fiberglass Sales (source of cheap peel ply)

http://www.nfgsales.com/

-Kent A.

From: "Michael Schrder" <petrusjka@get2net.dk>
Subject: Sv: COZY: K.B.M. Parts for the Cozy MKIV
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:39:58 +0200

I have had no problem at all with my parts from KB. (I think that the only part I still have to buy is the engine mount).
Their parts are of premium quality. 
Best regards 

Michael Schroeder, Denmark
#220 
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wydo van de waerdt wrote:
 
> What I want to know;
> Is there somebody having addresses of manufactures in Europe for glass,
> foam, etc.????
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Check with Uli Wolters / Cozy Europe.  I do not have his email but
someone might on this list.  I would think he has the best handle
on where to purchase the raw material over there.  Nat might
have his email account?

hope that helps
-- 
Jeff

From: "wydo van de waerdt" <wydo.vandewaerdt@fae.storkgroup.com>
Subject: COZY: Pre-build: Cozy Europe, material
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:28:16 +0200

Dear builders,

This is not a separation movement from the cozy builders in the USA!!

But for getting your material in Europe we can have other suppliers.
I know we need authorized suppliers !!!!!!!!

The manufactures of the material like resin, foam, glass can be located here
in Europe, and sold by Wicks or Aircraft Spruce.
This means for European cozy builders less shipping cost if we buy direct
from the manufacturer.

The Resin can be bought from MGS in Stuttgart (Germany),
//www.mgs-online.com

What I want to know;
Is there somebody having addresses of manufactures in Europe for glass,
foam, etc.????

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Wydo van de Waerdt (NL)
#827 (yeah, I have got the plans now)







From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:06:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: COZY: Cozy Europe, material

Jeff said <Check with Uli Wolters / Cozy Europe>

Here is his E-mail <flyclassic@aol.com>

Also the designers, etc. might publish the actual manufacturer of items such as foam, and glass , including alternate 
suppliers with their product identification, or generic specifications, where builders worldwide could benefit. I am one that 
is fortunate to be a couple of days ground transportation from Wicks, Spruce in Georgia wasn't there when I was building. I 
can picture a real pain with many minor modifications, without a good supply time, it would have taken me much longer, and 
maybe giving up before I got finished. And thats with good planning ahead. (My building time was 3.5 years).

From: "wydo van de waerdt" <wydo.vandewaerdt@fae.storkgroup.com>
Subject: COZY: Pre-build :suppliers RST-eng
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:13:28 +0200

Dear builders,

Is there someone who ordered some stuff at RST-eng.
There antennae are outstanding. ( In the archives, Nat told me)

What about the :   Audio panel & marker receiver
                            Encoder/textbox
                            Altitude encoder test box
                            Professional head set
                            ELT/antennae

I would like to know is this stuff worth the trouble building it your self.
Please  your reaction.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Wydo van de Waerdt (NL)
#827 Pre-build



From: "John Slade" <rjslade@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: COZY: Pre-build :suppliers RST-eng
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:03:20 -0400

Hello Wydo,
>Is there someone who ordered some stuff at RST-eng.
>There antennae are outstanding. ( In the archives, Nat told me)
I got my antenna stuff from there. I also built the RST Audio Panel & Market
Beacon.
Service was excellent. You can read about my experience at
http://kgarden.com/cozy/chap22.htm

John Slade, Cozy MKIV #757


From: RonKidd@aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:07:37 EDT
Subject: Re: COZY: Epoxy

Check out http://www.fibreglast.com/. They have all kinds of supplies and 
instructional information for someone interested in composite construction. I 
don't think they are on the approved list, but may offer alternatives to 
those so inclined.
Ron
N417CZ

From: "Hunter, Gary GA SCC" <GH334766@MSXSCC.shell.com>
Subject: RE: COZY: Epoxy
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:02:43 -0500

> Check out http://www.fibreglast.com/. They have all kinds of supplies and 
> instructional information ........
> 
Nice shopping cite - BUT - way too expensive.  These guys are ridiculous
!!!!

Gary Hunter


From: "Rick Maddy" <cozy@maddyhome.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: FYI: 10% discount at Wicks
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:22:15 -0700

I placed an order a few days ago.  I had a big note at the top of my order
to mention the ad.  Of course I forget to.  I called back later in the day,
just before closing, and told them I forgot to mention the ad.  They happily
updated my order to get the 10% taken off.  Good thing, it was a big order.
I asked and they said they would honor it on later orders too if I mention
the ad again.  What a great bunch of people.

Later,

Rick Maddy  (cozy@maddyhome.com)
Cozy Mk IV #0824: Pre-build (www.maddyhome.com/cozy)

P.S.  Look, no measurements in this e-mail :)

From: "allan aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
Subject: COZY: Great Job Westach
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:03:01 +1100

Thought it appropriate to tell you all what terrific service I got from
Westach (the instrument manufacturers) recently when I bought a specially
laid out quad fuel level gauge for my Mustang II.  I had a short window of
time when I was in San Francisco (I live in Australia) to pick up the unit
and I gave the factory only about a week's notice of my requirement.  They
responded very quickly (via email) with all the information I needed to make
an order, made up the instrument to suit my specific requirements and had it
waiting at my hotel when I arrived in San Francisco.  Haven't tested it yet
but it looks nice.   I wish more companies served their customers as well  -
I hope their after-sales service is just as good.

Allan Aaron




Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 05:15:03 +0000
Subject: Re: COZY: Great Job Westach
From: mark w beduhn <mbeduhn@juno.com>

>> Thought it appropriate to tell you all what terrific service I got
from Westach. . . 

I had a similar experience with Rocky Mountain Instruments.  

I built a Micro Encoder a couple of years ago (Air speed, altimeter,
encoder, air temp, vert air speed etc. all combined into one digital
instrument).  I love the instrument and use it as my primary airspeed
indicator and altimeter.  A couple of months ago the LCD display suddenly
went blank.  After checking the power connections and confirming
everything was OK, I reluctantly sent it back to the factory (knowing
that it was long out of warranty and they could basically charge me
anything they wanted to).  After a couple of days I got an E-mail from
the factory telling me that they had fixed the problem and were shipping
the unit back to me.  They said that I had installed a capacitor
backwards and that it had failed.  Oops!

When I received the unit I found that there was no invoice.  I called the
factory to find out how much I owed them (for such good service I wanted
to send them a check right away).  They told me that I didn't owe them
anything!!

Now that's great after-the-sale service!!

Mark Beduhn
Cozy N494CZ

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:40:02 -0700
From: Stefan G Siegel <stefan@u.arizona.edu>
Subject: COZY: Re:Allegro Instruments


>Anyone know  the web sight address of these folks ?

http://www.allegroavionics.com/

Allegro Avionics
Peter Dubois
1332 E Hampton Street
Tucson, AZ 85716
(520) 327-0426

I will be picking up my engine monitor today and can probably throw 
in some experiences on installation later this week. As far as the 
workings of their products go, I only heard positive comments so far.

Stefan

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University of Arizona                Dep. of Aerospace and Mech Eng
                                      Building 119 Rm. N614
                                      Tucson, AZ 85721
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 18:40:03 -0500
From: Jeff Russell <JRaero@gte.net>
Subject: COZY: Ron Alexander new buisness

Ron has started a new business that might help some you guys
that are dreading the filling and sanding and painting of your
airplane.  He has just sold Alexander Sportair Workshops to the 
EAA and is setting up builder assist programs for a few types 
of homebuilts.  We will be testing out the people he has hired
to fill and finish on wings and canards that we are building 
for the Velocity XL's.  Talk to him direct if interested at 
Sportair.com or 1-800-worksho until his new web site is up and 
running. To give a price example on what he is doing for us;

1 set of XL wings, 1 set of ailerons, 1 set of elevators, 
1 set of rudders and 1 canard filled and primed.  These
will be picked up and delivered for $3000.00

This price includes material, labor and delivery.
I can't beat that with a stick :-)

Maybe this might help get more in the air.
I will keep you guys posted on how the first set turn out.
I will now by mid January.  

PS:  I will still be teaching for the workshops but now will have
to wear the EAA hat and shirt.  It will be interesting to see how 
this works out.
-- 
Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc.                    E-mail:   Jeff@aerocad.com
2954 Curtis King Blvd.  Ft. Pierce, FL. 34946
Shop# 561-460-8020 7:00am to 3:30pm  Home# 561-344-6200
Website:   http://www.Aerocad.com
Composite workshop info:   http://www.Sportair.com

From: SWrightFLY@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:17:47 EST
Subject: COZY: Fwd: Status of Audio Flight Avionics  

Something happened and this did not go through so.........here it is 
again.......I hope!

<< I am Peter Rummell, the Chief Engineer from AFA and I am trying to pick
  up some of the pieces from the fall out of AFA.  Specifically, I am trying
  to honor all orders placed with AFA and will commit to delivering on these
  orders once I understand the details.  Unfortunately I do not have free
  access to the company records or books and therefore cannot contact
  customers directly - I don't know who you are.  If you have ordered an AV8
  or AV10 and are waiting for delivery, I need to hear from you directly.  I
  have limited resources and no financial support at this time, however, if
  you can show me a bill of sale and are willing to discuss with me delivery
  terms and conditions then I believe I will be able to provide you with what
  you ordered.  I cannot offer any refunds.
  
    Going forward, I am working towards an amicable settlement with my
  partners that will allow me to continue to support our product line while
  developing some new and exciting products.  I would also like to say that I
  would appreciate any new business and am offering a 'Referral Bonus' of 10%
  of the value of the sale to any existing customer who provides me with a
  customer lead that results in a sale of an engine monitor.  Right now, I am
  sales, marketing and manufacturing all in one - I can use your help!
  
    In closing I want to reassure AFA customers, new and old, that I am
  supporting the AV8 and AV10 and need to hear from those customers awaiting
  delivery.  I will keep you informed of any updates or changes as they
  occur.  Your understanding and continued support of this product is greatly
  appreciated.  
  
    The website and 800 number for AFA are still active, however, it is not
  likely that you will  reach me directly using either of these lines of
  communication.  Please contact Peter Rummell directly at
  wedgie@interlog.com or telephone 416-264-0968.  I look forward to hearing
  from you soon.>>
     >>

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From: SWrightFLY@aol.com
Full-name: SWrightFLY
Message-ID: <0.84609b59.25812ae4@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:55:16 EST
Subject: Re: Status of Audio Flight Avionics  
To: cozy_builders@canard.com (Cozy Builders), canard-aviators@canard.com
	(Canard group)
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Over a year ago I began researching engine insruments for my Stagger EZ.
After months of searching and looking I decided on (AFA) the Audio Flight 
Avionics AV-10. the main reason is that it had a feature called "bitchin 
betty" which is a very sexy pleasant voice that will announce (for example) 
"caution low oil pressure" if the pressure drops below a established level or 
"caution low battery voltage" if your alternator goes south. So.......I 
called Rod at the AFA company and he quickly sold me. He ask for a deposit of 
$500.00 before he builds the unit... which I reluctantly gave him and ---to 
make a long story short----he has run off with my money and many other 
canardians money and can't be found. I had all but given up and felt my $500 
deposit was history and really felt bad that I talked 4 others in to doing 
this with me....... but yesterday I got a call from Peter Rummell who said he 
will make good on my order. So ........Since I got 4 other Canardians to go 
in with me to get an AV-10 at a good discount and since I am not sure who 
they all are as they had contacted Rod.......the owner of the Co. 
directly....here is the latest on the situation directly from Peter.

<>
   

I ask you to pass this on to other news groups that may have folks in our 
situation. In my Nose Lift business as well as my other businesses, I do not 
accept deposits and only cash checks from customers when I am ready to ship 
the product. If I take a check and do not have the product ready to ship the 
check sits on my desk until the Nose Lift is built. Be careful with any 
vendor who "requires" payment in advance of making the product for you. If 
this is necessary then the vendor may be behind the "power curve" financially 
and may be trying to live on your deposit unable to pay the bills and may end 
up doing to you as Rod did to us. 
Not all vendors are ethical.........be careful out there.
Steve Wright
Stagger EZ N700EZ
Wright Aircraft Works LLC <A HREF="http://www.canard.com/noselift/">Wright 
Aircraft Works LLC: Electric Nose-Lift for EZEs</A> 
Sponsor- Canard Aviators  <A HREF="www.canard.com">canard Aviators page</A>

From: SWrightFLY@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:55:16 EST
Subject: COZY: Re: Status of Audio Flight Avionics  

Over a year ago I began researching engine insruments for my Stagger EZ.
After months of searching and looking I decided on (AFA) the Audio Flight 
Avionics AV-10. the main reason is that it had a feature called "bitchin 
betty" which is a very sexy pleasant voice that will announce (for example) 
"caution low oil pressure" if the pressure drops below a established level or 
"caution low battery voltage" if your alternator goes south. So.......I 
called Rod at the AFA company and he quickly sold me. He ask for a deposit of 
$500.00 before he builds the unit... which I reluctantly gave him and ---to 
make a long story short----he has run off with my money and many other 
canardians money and can't be found. I had all but given up and felt my $500 
deposit was history and really felt bad that I talked 4 others in to doing 
this with me....... but yesterday I got a call from Peter Rummell who said he 
will make good on my order. So ........Since I got 4 other Canardians to go 
in with me to get an AV-10 at a good discount and since I am not sure who 
they all are as they had contacted Rod.......the owner of the Co. 
directly....here is the latest on the situation directly from Peter.

<>
   

I ask you to pass this on to other news groups that may have folks in our 
situation. In my Nose Lift business as well as my other businesses, I do not 
accept deposits and only cash checks from customers when I am ready to ship 
the product. If I take a check and do not have the product ready to ship the 
check sits on my desk until the Nose Lift is built. Be careful with any 
vendor who "requires" payment in advance of making the product for you. If 
this is necessary then the vendor may be behind the "power curve" financially 
and may be trying to live on your deposit unable to pay the bills and may end 
up doing to you as Rod did to us. 
Not all vendors are ethical.........be careful out there.
Steve Wright
Stagger EZ N700EZ
Wright Aircraft Works LLC <A HREF="http://www.canard.com/noselift/">Wright 
Aircraft Works LLC: Electric Nose-Lift for EZEs</A> 
Sponsor- Canard Aviators  <A HREF="www.canard.com">canard Aviators page</A>

From: "Nat Puffer" <cozy@extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: COZY: Re: Status of Audio Flight Avionics
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:45:19 -0600

Builders,
One of our Cozy Builders has already developed a voice annunciated warning
system which he demonstrated to a number of us (including Vance Atkinson)
at Sun 'n fun and which I wrote up in newsletter #66, page 3. He is
scrupulously honest, and gave one to Vance to evaluate. He will supply it
either as a kit, or already assembled. Because he received more orders than
he expected, he reduced the price and even sent a refund back to the first
builders who ordered. For those of you who don't receive the newsletter (or
don't read it), his name is Richard Lewis, and his home phone is
(423)376-1450.
Regards,
Nat

----------
> From: David Domeier <david010@earthlink.net>
> To: SWrightFLY@aol.com
> Cc: Cozy Builders <cozy_builders@canard.com>; Canard group
<canard-aviators@canard.com>; wedgie@interlog.com
> Subject: Re: COZY: Re: Status of Audio Flight Avionics
> Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 11:03 AM
> 
> Steve,
> 
>     Re "....a feature called "bitchin betty"
> 
>     I am taking your message to a good friend who owns Ozarks Radio here
> in St. Louis.  He is a genious with electronics and has expressed the
> idea of producing something simular to a bitchin betty.
> 
>     How many guys would interested in such a system?
> 
>     It could be built it to alert a variety of warnings.
> 
> dd
> 

From: "Capps Family" <capps@mediaone.net>
Subject: RE: COZY:  WICKS AIRCRAFT 10% OFF ON AN ORDER
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:52:52 -0600

To get the 10% OFF any Order at WICK's at any-time;  JUST say you saw their
add.  I have had them credit my order when I have forgotten to remind them,
they are a great company.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
 Subject: Re: COZY: WICKS AIRCRAFT 10% OFF ON AN ORDER

Builders,
I read this week  in the news group that Wicks was offering a 10% discount
on your order if you mention seeing either an add or a coupon,   I can,t
remember which it was or the specifics on how to get it.  We are going to
place a large order for Cozy's #656 & 591 with Wicks this week and 10% off
would sure help us out here.   Can anybody fill us in on this deal.   Thanks
for your help.

Dave #656
Mike & Thane #591

From: N433DP@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:42:04 EST
Subject: Re: COZY: cover for longeze

In a message dated 12/16/99 8:46:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Cozyone2@aol.com writes:

<< I am looking for a supplier that makes covers for a longeze. Can anyone 
help?  >>
I saw these Two at Osh in 96.  They both fit very nice.

Leading Edge
Aircraft Covers
Arlington, Wa.98223
1-800-940-0324
360-435-0342
Covers nose to prop.  Prop not covered.


Custom Cabin Covers
P.O. Box 770361
904-237-1811
Covers from about 1 foot from nose to include the prop. 

Hope this helps.  

Doug

Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:35:05 -0500
From: Rob and Carla Kittler <rkck@mindspring.com>
Subject: COZY: throttle cables

For those who will need a Cable Craft throttle cable--thier new phone
number is
253-475-1080

Happy Holidays

Rob

