Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:20:11 -0500 (EST) From: RonKidd@aol.com Subject: Re: COZY: Hockey Puck - NO WAY Jim, I had four layers of kevlar under my puck. When I landed gear up (yes, I thought it would never happen to me, either), I ground through the puck, the kevlar and 1" of the retracted nose gear. I was back in the air a week later (a testament to this kind of construction), But I was damned glad the puck, and kevlar were there. Ron N417CZ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:42:56 +0000 From: Robin du bois Subject: Re: COZY: Flying Qualities (Chris van Hoof wrote: > > Hi to all, > > Thanks for sharing the wheels-up experiences and damage reports. I'm glad > you're all OK. > > Would like to know the "feeling" of the A/C as it went past "the" point, > you know the "ARGH" moment, and how short did it stop. (Seen a C182 do a > wheels-up and stopped in less than 75 yards on tar). > > Also what was the effect inside as well as the conditions, ie was your > safety harness on tight? Any smoke? Did your legs get bashed on the > instrument panel? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Chris with #219 nearly done in 08 The sensation was, that was a nice landing, then the canard fell through and it suddenly wasn't so nice...Things to be aware of: if your hand is on the throttle it will get bumped forward as the thump of landing on the nose is pronounced... you won't hear the engine rev, as the noise of the nose being ground on the runway and the reek of ground fiberglas will be distracting. As will be the senstion of scooting down the runway at eye level to a grasshopper! Some smoke I imagine, mostly clouds of noxious fumes and dust. No real impact to speak of, and no real risk of physical injury in my case. Still an ugly experience well worth avoiding. Read your checlist. Robin du Bois Allegro Avionics (Engine temperature and fuel monitors.) Cozy II-place N22AZ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:00:59 -0500 From: Mahan Subject: Re: COZY: Gear Up (was Flying Qualities) The "feeling," in rapid succession and in the following order: 1) Aw, sh*t! 2) The d@mned gear gear must have stripped! 3) Hope nobody's looking! No smoke, no drama, no trauma, just THUD and SCRAAAAAAAPE, accompanied by intense remorse. You can actually feel the nose slowly settling as it is abraded away. Brake hard and stop as quickly as you can. Do *NOT* try to make it to the turnoff in order to get off of the runway, you're just wearing away more foam and glass and making the repair bigger. You might head for the grass, but by the time you get there you probably could have stopped anyway. You should be able to make your shortest landing ever. Don't rely on the alarm system to save you -- it will almost always save you, but not EVERY time. Fred in Florida Long-EZ N86LE Chris van Hoof wrote: > > Hi to all, > > Thanks for sharing the wheels-up experiences and damage reports. I'm glad > you're all OK. > > Would like to know the "feeling" of the A/C as it went past "the" point, > you know the "ARGH" moment, and how short did it stop. (Seen a C182 do a > wheels-up and stopped in less than 75 yards on tar). > > Also what was the effect inside as well as the conditions, ie was your > safety harness on tight? Any smoke? Did your legs get bashed on the > instrument panel? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Chris with #219 nearly done in 08 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:39:07 -0800 From: Chris van Hoof Organization: C van Hoof - Architect Subject: COZY: Flying Qualities Hi to all, Thanks for sharing the wheels-up experiences and damage reports. I'm glad you're all OK. Would like to know the "feeling" of the A/C as it went past "the" point, you know the "ARGH" moment, and how short did it stop. (Seen a C182 do a wheels-up and stopped in less than 75 yards on tar). Also what was the effect inside as well as the conditions, ie was your safety harness on tight? Any smoke? Did your legs get bashed on the instrument panel? Thanks in anticipation. Chris with #219 nearly done in 08